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icemink ([personal profile] icemink) wrote2008-11-04 10:35 pm
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Not what I expected to feel.

So it's over. I've been jittery and excited all day (if all my rare LJ posts haven't told you that). I love election day, and I couldn't wait to hear that Obama had won. But something funny happened as I watched him walk out on the stage to make his acceptance speech,

It hit me all of a sudden while I listened to my parents marvel at the fact that we actually had an African-American president. All I could think was that we still had a male president. It surprised me because I thought all my bitterness over Hillary's loss was gone. I like Obama, I do, and even if I've never drunk the Kool-aid I think he can do really great things for this country.

But I can't seem to forget all the misogynistic things I heard when Clinton was running. Which is even stranger because in retrospect, looking back on the primaries, I don't think it was sexism that cost Hillary the nomination. I think it was a lot of things, including overconfidence on her part, and a very well run campaign on Obama's part. But so many people I had respected in the press, people I thought were part of the same world view as myself, especially (but certainly not only) Keith Olberman, said things that horrified me.

I feel so happy for what an Obama presidency means for so much of our country. I watched on the news tears of African-Americans who must feel more a part of our country than they had ever felt before. And I couldn't help just a bit on the outside as I watched another man take the highest office in our country.

And I'm torn between feeling that this is rational and irrational. Because the other thing I saw as Obama walked out on that stage was the warmth between himself and Michelle. I don't know that we've ever had a first couple who so clearly loved and respected each other. And as I watched Obama hug his girls, I fully believed what he's said in the past about wanting to make sure that when they grow up they will be treated the same as their male counter parts. And I thought of Joe Biden tearing up during the debate as he talked about being a single father. And that means so much for me, because I firmly believe that for woman to have the same rights to work as men, father's must have the same chances to be parents as women.

And yet, just as I can't fully understand the experience of African-American's in our country, I wonder if Obama, can fully understand my experience. And I couldn't help but note, when he talked about the 106 year old black woman, who was born in a time when she couldn't vote, saw her black brothers vote long before she could. In fact Obama was somewhat wrong when he said she couldn't vote because she was black. The 15th Amendment, which gave non-whites the right to vote, was passed in 1870, whereas the 19th Amendment which gave women the right to vote was passed in 1920, fifty years later.

It makes me wonder how long it will be before we get a vice-presidential candidate that's both a woman and a serious candidate (as I think neither Geraldine Ferrara nor Sarah Palin were), or a president that's a woman. After all, I see Obama winning again in four years, and after that Biden will have the nomination if he wants it.

On the other hand, it was only four years ago that most of us heard of Barak Obama for the first time. Who knows what woman might emerge on the American political scene in the mean time. And certainly neither Clinton nor Pelosi are going away.

In the mean time, by the end of Obama's speech I was in tears. And I want more than anything for him to be the great president that so many people think he can be. Realistically too I realize that he may have opportunities to unite the country that Hillary wouldn't have had. I want him to succeed. I want him to be the President I hope he is. But when I looked on the faces of so many African-American's, I envied them their triumph, and the feeling that America has accepted them at last.

[identity profile] cafedemonde.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
But when I looked on the faces of so many African-American's, I envied them their triumph, and the feeling that America has accepted them at last.

I think that sums it up neatly!

[identity profile] icemink.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, It is an amazing and important day. And it's just amazing to think about the kids that will grow up remembering their first president as an African-American

[identity profile] sevvy-o.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
It hit me all of a sudden while I listened to my parents marvel at the fact that we actually had an African-American president. All I could think was that we still had a male president. It surprised me because I thought all my bitterness over Hillary's loss was gone. I like Obama, I do, and even if I've never drunk the Kool-aid I think he can do really great things for this country.

But I can't seem to forget all the misogynistic things I heard when Clinton was running.


This sums up my thoughts entirely. I still don't think I drank the Kool-aid (LOL!) but I am very happy to see the Democrats in power. I just really would have preferred Hillary, and sexism remains an extremely sensitive subject for me. I'm glad I'm not the only one still has feelings of bitterness. =)

[identity profile] icemink.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one. Maybe the worse part is that it seems like we need a symbol to deal with these issues. Racism isn't going to go away today or tomorrow, but America won't really be able to hide from it. I am happy, I just wish there was a way we could have America confront it's sexism in the same way.

[identity profile] missus-grace.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying, but I really don't see this as much about gender politics as it is about (here's the magic word again) change.

For inasmuch as Hilary is relatively new to being in elected office herself, she has been associated with elected office for years. And although I loved Bill, the taint of ethics probes, impeachment, and sexual scandal left its mark and I believe Hilary is the unfortunate recipient of guilt by association.

I think people looked at Hilary and figured she was old-school politico. I don't deny that old cliche that the same qualities that are admired in men (intelligence, aggressiveness) are not as flattering on women, and I'm sure that played a part in her defeat.

Mostly I just think people wanted a breath of fresh air. I believe that Obama is our generation's JFK, and I think he can use his charisma heal the rifts in our country.

But I do hope Hilary runs again. She is my definite choice for the first female president.

[identity profile] icemink.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it was gender politics that cost Hillary the election. I just think the election brought out how deeply sexist our culture still is. Obama won on his merits as a political candidate and his brilliant campaign skills. After all it was actually Hillary who won the popular vote, but Obama understood how the system really worked and won that way.

[identity profile] spikeverse.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. Although I am over bitterness about Clinton not getting the nomination. I'm even over her not being selected for Vice-president since I've always liked Joe Biden. Even though I didn't feel the need to be inspired or given 'hope,' I just wanted someone to run the country, there's a lot to be said for how inspiring everyone else seems to find him. Especially elsewhere in the world. And there's always been too much backlash against Hillary. I do hope she will be given an important role.

There's a lot of damage to be repaired.

[identity profile] icemink.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
think Hillary is actually going to get a lot more done in the Senate than she would as vice-president. After all, the president doesn't write legislation. I think it will be her health care plan we get, and that she and Barrack work together for a lot of the changes. She definitely isn't going to disappear, I just hope they both get the credit they deserve.

[identity profile] spikeverse.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet you are proud of your state. It's nice to see some changes to the blue/red map.

I wish I could say the same for Texas. Although our local media keeps pointing out that Obama won the county Houston is in. Which is a little unusual, because the cities have always tended to vote democrat, even in Texas, yet they never felt the need to mention it. Maybe they just feel the need to point it out this time to show we are on the winning side.

Even the county where Beaumont is went blue, and that's deep in the Bible Belt and a very blue collar town.

[identity profile] icemink.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's good to be a blue state. Although I'm not really surprised. Colorado has really been more a swing state than people realize. When I was a kid we always had one democratic and one republican senator, until a democrat we elected decided after the election he was really a republican. It's true we went red in the Bush years, but I'm not surprised we swung back to the blue.

[identity profile] ladycat713.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought I'd drop you a line to tell you your site is down. Actually all of the vampkiss sites are down and she knows about itand is thinking about what to do.

On a political note , I live in a small town of 2000 people , most of which are poor .The political signs around here were terribly biased. The only ones around were for McCain (even the ones at the town hall where everyone voted. They posted the amount of votes on the door at town hall.

Total voters: 5??
McCain:4??
Obama:7?
Nader 4
Gonzales:1

The other 3 runners didn't get any votes.The area is heavily redneck but you'd think the the heavily Republican leaning in favor of the rich would counteract that.